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the international space station was

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forced to retreat back into the station

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after liquid started collecting in his

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failure is unique to luca parmitano's

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international ufo museum and research

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smith has a new vehicle designed

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and finally the 2013 mufon symposium is

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range from dr ted peters on astrobiology

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humanoid martin have you heard anything

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their mailing list of course but um you

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and there am i going you know blah blah

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the atacama humanoid he's he is actually

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ventriloquist act with the atacama human

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height

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that would be great

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i i'm gonna get the dvd to that i just

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flew in from alpha centauri and boy are

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my arms tired

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you know what i think i heard i think i

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heard that they were going to be

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bringing in

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some other little

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atacama type baby things

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you know supposedly there were other

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ones i

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i'm all for it let's let's see what uh

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comes with those although this they

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still just remind me of uh

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old carnival sideshow perhaps yeah i

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mean we could call it the atacama baby

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lineup

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right yeah at the mufon well hey that's

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it for the news right uh yes okay so

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we're gonna take a break and we're going

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to bring back peggy so please enjoy this

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music it's by a fan of the show

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he's made a lot of movie soundtracks his

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name is carrie whitehouse i believe his

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website is kerryloydwhitehouse.com

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he has an internet movie database page

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and all and we'll be right back with you

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talking to peggy

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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so we have peggy on the line who is the

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admin to our extremely busy facebook

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page peggy what's going on

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not a whole lot martin just uh barely up

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it's eight o'clock in the morning in las

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vegas that's right peggy i want to thank

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you peggy

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martin i believe you're you post like

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three or four postings a day

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and i i do is that too much no no it's

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awesome but uh it's funny a lot of when

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you post something that someone doesn't

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like they start yelling at martin and uh

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i like that

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you do you do because i take it

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personally it's like uh and it's silly

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to take it personally because most

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people are just very nice and the few

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that aren't you know why bother but it's

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like what

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yeah yeah some i guess you call them

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trolls some people can be a little harsh

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but for the most part they're good

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people on there you're right but it's

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funny they are

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it's funny the type of posts they re you

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and i are always talk about the reaction

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of the comments and the likes and things

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like that and the different types of

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posts and i find that pretty interesting

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it is you get to learn a lot about uh

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you know your your audience by going

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back to see what you know what their

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favorites and what's gotten the most

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hits right what what has gotten the most

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hits is that martin's having my baby

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song

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you know i don't remember that one but

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i'm sure that that would have gotten the

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most hits that was the one well that was

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one about uh my favorite my kind of my

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nemesis stephen grier they they love the

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uh ufo related cartoons

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and of course anything that

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is ufo related especially the pictures

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it was a cigar-shaped

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ufo uh that i posted it was

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you know a representation

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not an actual picture but it got a ton

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of hits i think over 5 000 wow well you

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do a good job because we have you know

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it's the page is growing every single

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day so and thanks to you

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well thank you it's a lot of fun and i'm

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happy to do it so peggy just a little

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background about you uh you

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have had an interest in you found our

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show what about a year ago something

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like that it was i was trying to

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remember how long ago when did you start

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doing this uh almost a couple years now

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but i thought it was not too long after

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now you started right out by scolding me

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and um and i didn't

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and i like that about you because you've

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really um you've kept me on the right

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track a lot of times

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and you always apologize after you yell

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at me but um you know i do appreciate it

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somehow

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well

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you know i am truthful and perhaps a

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little blunt i think i got that from my

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father remember

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uh norman there in in on golden pond oh

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yes yeah that was my father and i become

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more like him the older i get

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you're jane fonda

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yeah i wish

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let's see you do a backflip off the dock

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remember he was trying to get her to do

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that in the movie no oh honey i've

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reached that point where i don't

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remember anything i you know i did

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yesterday let alone a movie i saw 20

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years ago okay well do you remember how

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you got involved in the ufo subject

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well i

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i've always been

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um interested in it um

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you know i i don't know if you recall

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martin but i did write a blog for your

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site yes i do and in it i said that i'd

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had a um close encounter at the age of

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five

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right so

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it's kind of been um you know on my mind

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my entire life which is you know a long

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time

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sad to say

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but uh

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i had a um

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you know an encounter uh with an object

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that flew out of the woods

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toward me when we lived in cincinnati

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and stop 25 feet from my face

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and you know when something like that

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happens to you you can

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you're never the same again you're

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always always looking and always

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thinking about it and always trying to

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figure out what it was yeah your husband

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kind of listens to the show now and then

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and you know you can you guys seem like

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you you talk a lot and he help he

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supports you in all this he does in fact

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the whole family all right the whole

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family is crazy so of course

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you know we're all into the same things

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it works for us yeah everyone in the

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family is into

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the study of ufos and everyone has

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has seen one wow i know

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that's pretty awesome it's kind of like

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the family that is crazy together stays

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together

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okay

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michael you have anything to throw at

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her

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uh

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completely doesn't pay attention to

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anything i do

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now see that i understand that because

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if it were peter i wouldn't be paying

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any attention to him

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well peggy if you're in vegas is there

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any chance you're going to the mufon

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symposium

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no chance in hell

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well tell us about that

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you know uh like i said i'm a crank and

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i have been to uh

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several symposiums

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and have found that it's just not my cup

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of tea

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and once you've been to one

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and listen to

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some of these speakers on youtube you

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don't need to pay the money to go again

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because there's nothing

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new

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to be telling you and i wouldn't walk

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across the street or pay a dime to see

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stephen greer well he's got something

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new to tell us i think he's got a baby

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atacama baby lineup well you'd have to

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bleep anything i'd have to say about

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that

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yeah oh i want to add a comma humanoid

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action figure now

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yeah you know what maybe

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they'll be in the happy meals at

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mcdonald's pretty soon

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i'm sorry you know he started out with

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such promise

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and just to see him self-destruct but i

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see that happening with a lot of these

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people in the in the field

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yeah

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exactly they get burnt out or they just

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realize nothing's going to change or

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what i think that they they start out um

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with good intentions i think greer

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started out with good intentions and i i

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think but i think

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they get um

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this little bit of fame that's you know

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within this

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this field you know they get their

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followers they're they're they're

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groupies they're

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almost become like cult figures and

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people just

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i think goes through their head

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those that make their total living off

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this field

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they have to broaden their scope to

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appeal to more people i think even if

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they maybe don't believe what they're

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saying

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and and talk about the field i mean i've

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always highly respected richard dolan

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and i follow him on

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facebook

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and he he'll change his his profile

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picture almost daily it's kind of odd

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but the adulation and and the um

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plattering that people over do over him

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is kind of

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kind of sad

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and so i think i think it

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you know the ones that um have that kind

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of following they get kind of twisted by

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it

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yeah

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i can you can see that in all aspects in

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in life really i think in this field

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though it's it's different because

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you this is you know we want this stuff

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taken seriously

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i think there are people too that um

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the further they go

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the more

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desperate they become

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to solve the the ufo mystery and latch

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on to some pet theory

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and just run with it

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you know because it really does seem

527
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like that there are there are people

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that as they go on

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uh

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all of a sudden

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they're you know you spend 30 years in

532
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the field and you figure out that oh

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well ufos are actually fairies and that

534
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explains it all like how the hell did

535
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that come from

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but and then that's that's that's it and

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and i think that there are a lot of

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people who get into this thinking that

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damn it they're gonna they're gonna

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knock this out and when they don't it's

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a it's a blow to them you know and they

542
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don't know what to do

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yeah yeah i gotta relate to that don't

544
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you feel kind of like it's a

545
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we're running out of time i mean i

546
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myself do because i'm i'm a lot older

547
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than you are michael but i i feel like

548
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uh a kind of a sense of desperation and

549
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i'm not trying to earn a life a living

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outfit either yeah you know this came up

551
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in the interview i just did with uh

552
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alejandro rojas the other day you know

553
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basically that people are dying off that

554
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was hoping to find this

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the answers in their lifetime you know

556
00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:51,280
it's it's true you know and and i don't

557
00:22:56,230 --> 00:22:54,240
have any expectations myself i'm just uh

558
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:56,240
just along for the ride to see what we

559
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,120
can find out well i mean yeah i think in

560
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,760
in serious in serious quote unquote

561
00:23:06,789 --> 00:23:03,679
science um

562
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,799
you can't go in expecting that you're

563
00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,480
going to be einstein

564
00:23:12,310 --> 00:23:10,559
and even einstein had unanswered

565
00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:12,320
questions at the end of it i mean if if

566
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,400
you're if you're a doctor who got into

567
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,120
you know cancer research you can't let

568
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:19,360
your ego get the best of you if if you

569
00:23:23,430 --> 00:23:21,039
spent 50 years

570
00:23:24,549 --> 00:23:23,440
advanced the cause but didn't cure

571
00:23:26,870 --> 00:23:24,559
cancer

572
00:23:30,310 --> 00:23:26,880
oh yeah advance the cause but is there

573
00:23:31,590 --> 00:23:30,320
any advancement in this cause michael

574
00:23:34,789 --> 00:23:31,600
i don't see where there's any

575
00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:34,799
advancement over over 50 years ago i

576
00:23:38,070 --> 00:23:36,400
think i think there is

577
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:38,080
well i mean there have been a lot of

578
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:40,960
reports and we all but we don't have

579
00:23:44,860 --> 00:23:43,760
really a whole lot to show for it wow

580
00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:44,870
i'm getting depressed

581
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,039
[Laughter]

582
00:23:56,549 --> 00:23:51,840
i know i was going to have i sent you a

583
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,559
a link to a man from harvard who stays

584
00:24:00,549 --> 00:23:58,559
adamantly

585
00:24:04,549 --> 00:24:00,559
he's an astrophysicist i think that

586
00:24:06,230 --> 00:24:04,559
there is no life in this universe other

587
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,240
than ours

588
00:24:10,230 --> 00:24:08,080
and i i thought it might be kind of

589
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:10,240
interesting to interview him

590
00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,840
wow i don't know why because it's so

591
00:24:15,350 --> 00:24:13,520
depressing i can hardly stand the

592
00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:15,360
thought but it would be interesting to

593
00:24:19,669 --> 00:24:16,880
hear someone

594
00:24:21,430 --> 00:24:19,679
who's that supposedly brilliant that he

595
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,440
you know teaches at harvard

596
00:24:26,070 --> 00:24:24,000
i'd like to hear his reasoning i would

597
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,080
too i mean that to me that sounds very

598
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:28,400
arrogant really actually it does but i'd

599
00:24:32,630 --> 00:24:30,720
like to hear him say it yes i'll try to

600
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,640
get him on well this was a lot of fun

601
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:34,000
having the three of us on i think we

602
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,240
should do this again what do you think

603
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:38,400
i think it'd be great you gotta get it

604
00:24:41,350 --> 00:24:39,120
back

605
00:24:43,590 --> 00:24:41,360
yeah let me know ahead of time so i can

606
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:43,600
have my coffee yeah and you need to get

607
00:24:46,149 --> 00:24:45,279
a headset too if you want to play with

608
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:46,159
it

609
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:50,159
boys you got to get yourself a headset

610
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,799
mike oh martin yeah let me let me just

611
00:24:57,990 --> 00:24:55,120
say one last thing um to our listeners

612
00:24:59,990 --> 00:24:58,000
if for some inexplicable reason you

613
00:25:01,669 --> 00:25:00,000
actually would want to get in on

614
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,679
something like the conversation we just

615
00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:04,559
had uh join us in the chat group

616
00:25:08,230 --> 00:25:06,080
absolutely you know and and come visit

617
00:25:10,630 --> 00:25:08,240
us in the forums we we are in the forums

618
00:25:13,269 --> 00:25:10,640
and uh you know martin's always in chat

619
00:25:15,510 --> 00:25:13,279
and i try to make it as often as i can

620
00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,520
so and we expect peggy might even get in

621
00:25:19,350 --> 00:25:17,039
there this what do you mean always in

622
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:19,360
chat are you always in some chat room

623
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,120
sometimes no no this is during the show

624
00:25:25,350 --> 00:25:22,960
only yeah during the show during the

625
00:25:27,909 --> 00:25:25,360
show's chat he is he is always going to

626
00:25:30,870 --> 00:25:27,919
be there he signed a blood pact with the

627
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:31,590
yeah

628
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:33,520
sounds good i have to listen all right

629
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:35,440
our guest coming up today is a four

630
00:25:40,390 --> 00:25:38,080
minute interview with chip flesher and

631
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,400
an interview with australian peter

632
00:25:44,070 --> 00:25:42,720
maxwell slattery thanks so much guys we

633
00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:44,080
should do this again

634
00:25:49,070 --> 00:25:45,440
all right i'll talk to you next week

635
00:25:57,110 --> 00:25:54,950
[Music]

636
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,120
i'm with chip flesher how you doing chip

637
00:26:01,750 --> 00:25:58,559
good thank you mark

638
00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:01,760
um we just met here at the conference

639
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:04,559
and um you're an enthusiast you also

640
00:26:07,510 --> 00:26:05,679
have a show you want to talk a little

641
00:26:09,110 --> 00:26:07,520
bit about that yeah i've been doing a

642
00:26:11,350 --> 00:26:09,120
show of my own called the mind cemetery

643
00:26:13,590 --> 00:26:11,360
on the ufo paranormal radio network it's

644
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,600
one that joe montaldo

645
00:26:17,350 --> 00:26:15,360
produces our show and is the founder of

646
00:26:19,269 --> 00:26:17,360
the network all that good stuff and he

647
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,279
allows us to uh

648
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,120
to pretty much do what we want every

649
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,039
monday night and have a lot of other

650
00:26:27,510 --> 00:26:25,440
hosts that are very opinionated you know

651
00:26:29,029 --> 00:26:27,520
to say the least which uh

652
00:26:30,470 --> 00:26:29,039
a lot of other networks don't really

653
00:26:32,630 --> 00:26:30,480
have that you know they've got a lot of

654
00:26:34,870 --> 00:26:32,640
people that like to

655
00:26:36,789 --> 00:26:34,880
cuddle the superstars as i'd like to say

656
00:26:39,190 --> 00:26:36,799
you know instead of uh hit him in the

657
00:26:40,710 --> 00:26:39,200
mouth with some real questions and

658
00:26:42,470 --> 00:26:40,720
you know i think that's a

659
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,480
that's a problem with coast to coast

660
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:44,480
these days anymore too with george nori

661
00:26:47,269 --> 00:26:45,279
just

662
00:26:49,110 --> 00:26:47,279
a host and not an interviewer you know

663
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:49,120
he's more like a game show host these

664
00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:52,799
days i think you know so yeah so you

665
00:26:56,549 --> 00:26:54,159
explore all different types of

666
00:26:58,390 --> 00:26:56,559
paranormal is ufos one of the your

667
00:27:01,990 --> 00:26:58,400
favorites yeah i'm

668
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,000
more centered towards ufo uh and ufology

669
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:03,760
uh i'm more into

670
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:07,200
alien contact ease abductees whichever

671
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:09,039
they want to quantify themselves as

672
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:10,480
because i know that's a big discrepancy

673
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:12,159
with a lot of them you know

674
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,240
whether it's willing or not you know and

675
00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:16,159
uh and then even some of them like to

676
00:27:19,590 --> 00:27:17,520
say that they've been

677
00:27:21,269 --> 00:27:19,600
fooled into thinking that they're

678
00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,279
you know willing participants and

679
00:27:25,269 --> 00:27:22,960
everything like that so

680
00:27:27,269 --> 00:27:25,279
uh yeah i do more of that i do hit on

681
00:27:29,269 --> 00:27:27,279
the paranormal but not so much because i

682
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:29,279
you know don't i think there's even less

683
00:27:32,630 --> 00:27:30,880
answers in the paranormal field than

684
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:32,640
anything else and when it comes to

685
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,279
cryptozoology well that's we're rolling

686
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:37,039
off the rails on that one sometimes you

687
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,480
know when it comes to bigfoot and

688
00:27:43,350 --> 00:27:41,279
chupacabra and uh and mothman and things

689
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,360
like that i also

690
00:27:47,269 --> 00:27:45,200
would like to do some conspiracy stuff

691
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:47,279
but i found in the

692
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,559
in the course of doing the show it's

693
00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:49,919
harder to get

694
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:51,760
conspiracy people on for some reason

695
00:27:56,070 --> 00:27:53,440
they're a little more leery about coming

696
00:27:57,990 --> 00:27:56,080
onto shows i've noticed yep yeah yeah

697
00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:58,000
now so when you say come on the show so

698
00:28:02,950 --> 00:27:59,919
you have guests on basically yeah every

699
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:02,960
monday night nine o'clock um eastern on

700
00:28:06,870 --> 00:28:05,039
uh ufo paranormal radio network my show

701
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,880
the mind cemetery we have guests on for

702
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:09,600
two hours i've sometimes started doing

703
00:28:14,310 --> 00:28:11,520
two hours yeah it's a lot of time to

704
00:28:15,190 --> 00:28:14,320
fill yeah sometimes it can be and and

705
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,200
that's

706
00:28:19,430 --> 00:28:17,520
i try to keep the mantra of it being a

707
00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:19,440
conversation and not an interrogation

708
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:21,440
when it comes to the interview style you

709
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:24,000
know it's uh i don't have a lot of

710
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:25,919
scripted questions or anything like that

711
00:28:29,909 --> 00:28:27,919
you know i just let it let it flow would

712
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,919
we go where we go yeah it's always

713
00:28:33,750 --> 00:28:31,840
easier like that and yeah you know more

714
00:28:35,430 --> 00:28:33,760
natural we both just listened to charles

715
00:28:37,750 --> 00:28:35,440
hall speak he's going to be a future

716
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:37,760
guest on this podcast nice and the

717
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,640
reason i didn't have him on right on

718
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,000
while i'm down here is because he didn't

719
00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,679
have enough time

720
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:45,440
to do a whole show with me but still

721
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,360
sure um i'm looking forward to that but

722
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:49,679
i think that was a pretty straight

723
00:28:53,830 --> 00:28:52,159
forward and honest uh account of the

724
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:53,840
situation you hear a lot of variables

725
00:28:56,789 --> 00:28:54,960
what do you think about that it was

726
00:28:58,870 --> 00:28:56,799
pretty good yeah you know i'm a big fan

727
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:58,880
of his account i'm a big fan of larry

728
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:00,720
warren's account and peter robbins count

729
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:02,480
you know left at eastgate the book they

730
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,880
did i think is great i like

731
00:29:08,630 --> 00:29:06,240
sasha christie

732
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:08,640
when she does you know and her stuff but

733
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:10,640
you know when you start mixing in binary

734
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,679
codes and people from the future it's

735
00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,120
you know again we're running off the

736
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,279
rails i think and

737
00:29:20,789 --> 00:29:19,440
and the sad part is is

738
00:29:22,789 --> 00:29:20,799
this is one of the reasons i want to

739
00:29:24,789 --> 00:29:22,799
come here the sad part is is that like

740
00:29:26,789 --> 00:29:24,799
we were saying earlier that the people

741
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:26,799
those guys had like had frightening

742
00:29:30,870 --> 00:29:28,960
experiences yes in their hypnosis video

743
00:29:33,830 --> 00:29:30,880
and all that kind of stuff when you see

744
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:33,840
grown men being shook like that

745
00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:35,840
something definitely happened to them

746
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:37,440
yeah they've definitely had their heads

747
00:29:42,789 --> 00:29:39,600
screwed with post fact

748
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:42,799
and ever since then you know and

749
00:29:47,590 --> 00:29:45,679
you know charles told me the other night

750
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,600
at the meet and greet that he actually

751
00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:49,919
found out that he himself was drugged

752
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:51,600
yeah you know isn't that something i

753
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:53,200
mean it's crazy yeah that's something he

754
00:29:55,750 --> 00:29:54,480
hasn't talked about a whole lot yeah i

755
00:29:57,909 --> 00:29:55,760
don't think he's talked about it much

756
00:30:00,070 --> 00:29:57,919
but the stuff he shared today about jen

757
00:30:01,669 --> 00:30:00,080
penniston and things like that i'm

758
00:30:03,590 --> 00:30:01,679
actually pretty interested to have him

759
00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:03,600
on the show so if you get into that

760
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:05,279
definitely and that's a good good chance

761
00:30:07,990 --> 00:30:06,480
to get him on yourself so you can ask

762
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:08,000
your own questions you know and get more

763
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,279
in depth that's the best part about

764
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:11,520
having a lot of these guests on and on

765
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:13,760
your podcast and i think that's our cue

766
00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:15,600
here yeah that's it all right well

767
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:16,960
thanks a lot all right no problem thanks

768
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:20,710
for having me on mark you bet

769
00:30:26,630 --> 00:30:23,600
[Music]

770
00:30:29,350 --> 00:30:26,640
i'm on skype in australia while i'm not

771
00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,360
actually in australia i'm skyping peter

772
00:30:33,350 --> 00:30:31,200
slattery in australia how you doing

773
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:33,360
peter yeah good thanks uh you sound

774
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,799
crystal clear this is our second try so

775
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:38,240
we'll let people know it was terrible at

776
00:30:41,430 --> 00:30:39,840
first but now i'm talking to you on your

777
00:30:43,750 --> 00:30:41,440
cell phone which is quite amazing

778
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:43,760
actually yeah yeah no i put skype on it

779
00:30:48,310 --> 00:30:46,240
the other day so it came in handy yeah

780
00:30:50,870 --> 00:30:48,320
that's great i understand you had a

781
00:30:54,070 --> 00:30:50,880
sighting back in 1995 is that what it

782
00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:54,080
was yeah that was my first sighting i

783
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:56,880
was 12 years old at the time and i was

784
00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,039
living at my father's and

785
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:01,679
i was it was a hot day in the summer i

786
00:31:04,549 --> 00:31:03,120
don't know the exact date or anything

787
00:31:05,750 --> 00:31:04,559
but i know it was early in the summer

788
00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:05,760
which is when we have our school

789
00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:09,919
holidays um that go for a few weeks and

790
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,440
i thought i'd go down to the service

791
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:13,200
station to go and get one of them slush

792
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,440
puppy fingers like the slurpees oh you

793
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:17,360
have them there too

794
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,919
yeah now and i can remember back then we

795
00:31:24,070 --> 00:31:22,320
had this cool um cup thing that we got

796
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:24,080
where the cup would change colors but um

797
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,600
yeah and i was going

798
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:27,600
down to the servo

799
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:29,360
and the survey was a few blocks away

800
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:31,360
from me dad's and he was near the corner

801
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,679
of dick road so up the end of dick road

802
00:31:37,269 --> 00:31:35,679
was the servo and it went on to the main

803
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,279
highway in australia at the time known

804
00:31:41,590 --> 00:31:40,320
as the hume highway or the hume freeway

805
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:41,600
and

806
00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:45,200
a little bit down that road to my right

807
00:31:50,230 --> 00:31:48,559
uh probably just below 40 or probably 30

808
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:50,240
degrees or something up

809
00:31:55,350 --> 00:31:52,320
in in the air if you look at it on an

810
00:31:57,269 --> 00:31:55,360
angle there was this huge

811
00:31:59,350 --> 00:31:57,279
this it wasn't like a normal you know

812
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,360
flying disc but it was like

813
00:32:02,470 --> 00:32:00,880
on the end of your weights where you got

814
00:32:03,750 --> 00:32:02,480
the you put the weights on the on the

815
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:03,760
bar

816
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,399
if you put one of them on their side it

817
00:32:10,549 --> 00:32:08,240
was like that it was all curved there

818
00:32:12,870 --> 00:32:10,559
was sort of no protruding bits like you

819
00:32:15,029 --> 00:32:12,880
get two um bowls or plates and put them

820
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:15,039
on you know you know connect them

821
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:16,559
together it wasn't like that it was

822
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,880
actually like a weight so it was all

823
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,559
the top of it was straight the bottom of

824
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:21,760
it was straight and it just had these

825
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:25,279
curved edges and it was sort of this

826
00:32:29,430 --> 00:32:27,519
ah it was like a dull dark grey it

827
00:32:31,590 --> 00:32:29,440
didn't look shiny but it was sort of

828
00:32:33,110 --> 00:32:31,600
like a darker grey and it would have

829
00:32:35,430 --> 00:32:33,120
been about three times the size of a

830
00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:35,440
football field oh my goodness it was

831
00:32:38,950 --> 00:32:37,120
like i've seen a few different types of

832
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:38,960
crafts but it wasn't like your your

833
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:41,200
normal thing you'd see on a movie or

834
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:42,960
or photos of and you know i was 12 years

835
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,559
old at the time didn't know anything

836
00:32:48,789 --> 00:32:45,919
about this sort of thing except in

837
00:32:51,590 --> 00:32:48,799
cartoons or you know movies or whatever

838
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:51,600
but um i noticed that and i sort of just

839
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:54,240
stood still in all and it slowly that

840
00:32:58,950 --> 00:32:57,360
was in sort of the north northeast of

841
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,960
where i was

842
00:33:02,149 --> 00:33:00,640
and it cut in front of this hill which

843
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:02,159
is known as red light hill where i've

844
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,320
actually gone up and had you know seen a

845
00:33:08,710 --> 00:33:06,640
few other things as well

846
00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:08,720
and it cut in front of the hill so it

847
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:11,039
was it was low enough where it cut in

848
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:12,720
front of the hill and it blocked you

849
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:14,640
know bits of the hill out behind it and

850
00:33:19,990 --> 00:33:17,760
it just hovered west until i had a view

851
00:33:22,630 --> 00:33:20,000
from where i was um

852
00:33:23,990 --> 00:33:22,640
so just a little bit past north going

853
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:24,000
left towards the west is where i

854
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,120
couldn't see it anymore because there

855
00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:27,600
was a building and a few other things on

856
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:29,440
the left hand side of me and i just sort

857
00:33:33,350 --> 00:33:31,679
of stood there in awe and yeah i didn't

858
00:33:36,070 --> 00:33:33,360
know what to think i didn't tell anybody

859
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:36,080
about that till about 2004 when i had my

860
00:33:39,750 --> 00:33:37,519
second sighting

861
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:39,760
now tell me before you move on how did

862
00:33:44,789 --> 00:33:42,640
you keep that to yourself something that

863
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:44,799
amazing well i just thought people would

864
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,000
think i was crazy um

865
00:33:53,269 --> 00:33:50,960
yeah yeah like i was a hybrid kid but

866
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:53,279
my dad was a cop for 38 years and he was

867
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:55,679
you know straight down the line and uh i

868
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:57,200
just thought you know there's no use i

869
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:58,640
was living with him at the time and i

870
00:34:01,830 --> 00:34:00,000
thought my step-brother and sister are

871
00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,840
going to think i'm i'm crazy and i

872
00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,000
didn't say anything to my brother but

873
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:06,960
around that time years later around 2004

874
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:09,200
when i had my second sighting and i told

875
00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:10,879
a couple of people about it because a

876
00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,960
friend was with me when i saw another

877
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:14,240
craft

878
00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:16,079
my brother came out and said that he saw

879
00:34:20,310 --> 00:34:18,960
a craft the same year around the same

880
00:34:22,389 --> 00:34:20,320
time but it was a different craft of

881
00:34:23,349 --> 00:34:22,399
what he saw

882
00:34:24,950 --> 00:34:23,359
and

883
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,960
um

884
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,040
yeah he's seen a few things since then

885
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,960
but i just

886
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:31,280
like looking back now i didn't think

887
00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:32,800
much of it at the time but later on

888
00:34:35,909 --> 00:34:34,720
looking back i was just like that's you

889
00:34:38,470 --> 00:34:35,919
know he didn't say anything but he was

890
00:34:40,550 --> 00:34:38,480
with uh nine or ten of his mates well he

891
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:40,560
was more closer to red light hill yeah

892
00:34:43,750 --> 00:34:42,560
and they actually after they saw me on

893
00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:43,760
tv

894
00:34:47,430 --> 00:34:45,679
last year they actually contacted him

895
00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:47,440
and said is your brother for real and

896
00:34:52,710 --> 00:34:49,919
can you remember outsiding

897
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:52,720
and i'll sort of you know be taken aback

898
00:34:56,550 --> 00:34:54,720
by that because i was just like you know

899
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,560
these people are contacting him years

900
00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,160
later like

901
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:00,960
we're talking that was in 1995 and they

902
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:03,520
contacted him you know 2012 saying this

903
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,760
and i was just sort of you know this is

904
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,520
weird but

905
00:35:11,990 --> 00:35:09,520
um yeah that's why i didn't really say

906
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:12,000
anything um you know being by yourself

907
00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:12,800
too

908
00:35:15,910 --> 00:35:14,400
and but you know being known as a bit of

909
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,920
a hyperactive kid you know you just

910
00:35:18,790 --> 00:35:16,960
think

911
00:35:20,710 --> 00:35:18,800
you know no one's going to believe me

912
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:20,720
but later on

913
00:35:24,069 --> 00:35:22,400
um when a friend witnessed something

914
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:24,079
with me it was sort of like

915
00:35:26,870 --> 00:35:25,359
yeah we went back to the house there was

916
00:35:28,470 --> 00:35:26,880
a couple of the boys there my friends

917
00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:28,480
and my brother was there and we told

918
00:35:31,270 --> 00:35:30,240
them and you know there was somebody to

919
00:35:32,710 --> 00:35:31,280
say

920
00:35:34,790 --> 00:35:32,720
what we saw

921
00:35:37,510 --> 00:35:34,800
yeah it's so much better the only thing

922
00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:37,520
i ever saw was all by myself

923
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:39,599
so it's better when you have a witness

924
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:41,200
you feel a little more confident i'm

925
00:35:45,990 --> 00:35:43,760
sure so let me get this straight did you

926
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,000
say that earlier that you were on a

927
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:48,240
television program and that's why people

928
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:48,960
are

929
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:51,359
contacting you about this yeah i was on

930
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:52,240
um

931
00:35:58,390 --> 00:35:56,720
morning news show yes another channel

932
00:36:00,390 --> 00:35:58,400
this is a couple of channels but

933
00:36:03,750 --> 00:36:00,400
i was on that and that's a big show in

934
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:03,760
australia oh yeah yeah but um

935
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:04,800
it was

936
00:36:08,710 --> 00:36:06,480
weird because i was trying to get help

937
00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,720
and talk to people and get people to

938
00:36:13,430 --> 00:36:10,560
look at what's going on here for like

939
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:13,440
two years and and i got responses back

940
00:36:17,750 --> 00:36:15,680
saying you know cool footage all

941
00:36:20,230 --> 00:36:17,760
you know interesting this and that but

942
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:20,240
nobody you know came and investigated me

943
00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:20,960
or

944
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:22,640
looked at what was happening until after

945
00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,720
i was on tv and then even then i really

946
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:26,720
couldn't care by then because i you know

947
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,640
i said to people i've been wanting help

948
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,640
for two years and just because i'm on tv

949
00:36:35,030 --> 00:36:32,640
now now you just want to talk to me and

950
00:36:36,870 --> 00:36:35,040
you know i was just fed up with it but i

951
00:36:40,550 --> 00:36:36,880
came across some some others in the

952
00:36:43,430 --> 00:36:40,560
field that like alan ferguson the uh

953
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:43,440
he's into it um investigating and he's

954
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:45,280
very thorough he actually came down here

955
00:36:48,150 --> 00:36:46,480
from um

956
00:36:49,750 --> 00:36:48,160
darwin which is

957
00:36:50,950 --> 00:36:49,760
thousands of kilometers away i think

958
00:36:52,870 --> 00:36:50,960
about three

959
00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:52,880
thousand k's away and he come and visit

960
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:55,280
me out experiences in the house and um

961
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:56,960
kept on getting in touch and it was

962
00:37:00,790 --> 00:36:59,040
different from what he like he's seen a

963
00:37:02,950 --> 00:37:00,800
lot of crafts and

964
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,960
and you know saying some things but it

965
00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,560
was different here because it was you

966
00:37:08,870 --> 00:37:06,160
know more of the straight high

967
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:08,880
strangeness activity and it was weird

968
00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:10,960
how we come across each other it was it

969
00:37:15,510 --> 00:37:13,200
was on facebook and we just hit it off

970
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,520
um straight away and

971
00:37:18,630 --> 00:37:17,359
there's a few other you know people that

972
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:18,640
are sort of known in the field that i

973
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,480
talked to but now you know all the

974
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:22,240
people that want to come investigate i

975
00:37:25,109 --> 00:37:23,920
just haven't got time for because you

976
00:37:27,829 --> 00:37:25,119
know a lot of these people are the

977
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:27,839
people i was asking for helpful i helped

978
00:37:32,310 --> 00:37:30,560
from for for a while and um it was

979
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,320
frustrating because you know a lot of

980
00:37:36,390 --> 00:37:34,400
people didn't get back to me or you know

981
00:37:38,310 --> 00:37:36,400
they said interesting footage but you

982
00:37:40,470 --> 00:37:38,320
know when stuff keeps on happening it

983
00:37:43,109 --> 00:37:40,480
wasn't just a one one time you know

984
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:43,119
video clip there's a lot of stuff that

985
00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:45,599
i've accumulated and

986
00:37:49,510 --> 00:37:47,839
i you know now it was just frustrating

987
00:37:51,430 --> 00:37:49,520
but yeah it just seemed after i was on

988
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,440
tv and two years before that i was

989
00:37:55,510 --> 00:37:54,079
actually on prime news for the footage i

990
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:55,520
got here where i've got a craft that

991
00:37:58,710 --> 00:37:57,119
sits in the air

992
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:58,720
it's in infrared and you can see me

993
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:01,359
point at this white light and it jumps

994
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:03,359
off like it's sitting still and all of a

995
00:38:07,750 --> 00:38:05,760
sudden it just jumps and just flies off

996
00:38:10,390 --> 00:38:07,760
horizontally

997
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:10,400
and um that was shown around a bit at

998
00:38:14,069 --> 00:38:12,000
the time and not you know people said

999
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,079
that was interesting but nobody sort of

1000
00:38:18,670 --> 00:38:16,400
come and talk to me and that's when

1001
00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:18,680
all the activities started up in um

1002
00:38:23,030 --> 00:38:21,440
2010. yeah i'm pretty excited alan is

1003
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,040
going to be on i think i was in touch

1004
00:38:26,870 --> 00:38:25,119
with him quite a while ago and he just

1005
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,880
has to buy some equipment so alan

1006
00:38:31,109 --> 00:38:29,440
ferguson will be on eventually so he's

1007
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:31,119
pretty well known throughout australia

1008
00:38:36,950 --> 00:38:34,480
is he uh he's done a lot in our northern

1009
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,960
territory the top end of australia uh

1010
00:38:40,390 --> 00:38:38,720
he's been in the the paper a lot of

1011
00:38:42,710 --> 00:38:40,400
times and he's a really good thorough

1012
00:38:44,710 --> 00:38:42,720
investigator he'll go out to sites talk

1013
00:38:46,470 --> 00:38:44,720
to people look at evidence

1014
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:46,480
he's really good with photographic

1015
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:49,200
evidence and he's like up there i think

1016
00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:50,960
for the last he's not doing it now but

1017
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:52,960
for like a year or more he was in the

1018
00:38:56,790 --> 00:38:55,040
paper every wednesday sort of his

1019
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:56,800
opinion on whatever they wanted to talk

1020
00:39:02,150 --> 00:38:59,920
about but in between those times um

1021
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,160
going back a couple of years i think uh

1022
00:39:07,109 --> 00:39:04,640
whenever there was sightings or anything

1023
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:07,119
happening up there they they talked to

1024
00:39:11,349 --> 00:39:09,040
him and they actually did a pretty like

1025
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:11,359
it was a pretty fair job of how they

1026
00:39:16,550 --> 00:39:13,599
reported it it wasn't and up there they

1027
00:39:18,230 --> 00:39:16,560
look at the the ufo situation all

1028
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:18,240
reality totally different than the rest

1029
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:19,599
of australia i don't know if because

1030
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:22,079
there's more sightings up there but

1031
00:39:25,510 --> 00:39:23,200
it's

1032
00:39:27,430 --> 00:39:25,520
like the way i've seen it reported is

1033
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:27,440
just being you know 100 times better

1034
00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:29,760
than down here like when he come here to

1035
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:32,960
investigate me and we caught up

1036
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:35,440
because we talked a lot on the phone um

1037
00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:36,880
every time something happened or it was

1038
00:39:40,710 --> 00:39:38,400
getting to me he's been a really good

1039
00:39:43,430 --> 00:39:40,720
support base for me because i was sort

1040
00:39:45,910 --> 00:39:43,440
of at breaking point middle of last year

1041
00:39:48,470 --> 00:39:45,920
just with after you know the experiences

1042
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:48,480
got more and more and i got to say out

1043
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:50,960
of the people that i've spoken to he's

1044
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:53,040
asked me questions that nobody else has

1045
00:39:58,390 --> 00:39:56,079
that was good to me because uh it made

1046
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,400
me look at my experiences differently

1047
00:40:02,790 --> 00:40:00,480
and sort of learn things that i wouldn't

1048
00:40:05,030 --> 00:40:02,800
have thought or you know learn about

1049
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,040
otherwise if i hadn't spoke to him so

1050
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:07,119
let's move on to some of the other

1051
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,640
sightings that you've had yeah um around

1052
00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:12,960
2004 i was

1053
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:15,680
i think i was on my way home from work

1054
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,800
and i was

1055
00:40:20,150 --> 00:40:18,480
going to see mate and i had a friend

1056
00:40:21,430 --> 00:40:20,160
with me actually i would have gone home

1057
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,440
first and then i went over there but i

1058
00:40:25,589 --> 00:40:22,880
had a friend with me when i went and saw

1059
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:25,599
another friend and then

1060
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,119
me and me mate got back in me calm we

1061
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:29,359
drove back to my house which is like my

1062
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:31,359
place at the time which is actually a

1063
00:40:36,870 --> 00:40:33,440
few blocks away from here

1064
00:40:40,069 --> 00:40:36,880
next to prime tv which is funny enough

1065
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:40,079
and i was driving it was eden street i

1066
00:40:44,069 --> 00:40:42,000
was on and i was driving south and as i

1067
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,079
got to the end of the road or just

1068
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,680
before about

1069
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,119
maybe a block away we saw this white

1070
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:51,680
light over the suburb of roy which

1071
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:53,040
starts at the end of that road that

1072
00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:54,800
suburb starts there

1073
00:40:57,270 --> 00:40:55,760
and

1074
00:40:59,109 --> 00:40:57,280
i would say it was about the size of a

1075
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:59,119
two-story house it wasn't like a little

1076
00:41:02,550 --> 00:41:00,480
orb thing

1077
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,560
and it was going up doing crazy

1078
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:04,800
maneuvers going back and forth on itself

1079
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:07,680
and doing these smooth circle maneuvers

1080
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,440
going up really high and coming back

1081
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:10,880
down low

1082
00:41:14,550 --> 00:41:13,359
over the suburb of glenroy and we pulled

1083
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,560
over

1084
00:41:17,990 --> 00:41:15,920
and got out and just looked at this

1085
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:18,000
thing and another two or three cars

1086
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:20,800
pulled up as well and they got out and

1087
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:22,960
buddhist in all looking at this object

1088
00:41:28,069 --> 00:41:25,680
doing crazy maneuvers and

1089
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:28,079
uh it blinked out then after that we

1090
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,359
went back to

1091
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:30,960
my place which was

1092
00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:33,040
about two doors down from prime tv we

1093
00:41:35,750 --> 00:41:34,560
didn't even you know looking back now i

1094
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,760
was like i should have just gone to the

1095
00:41:40,309 --> 00:41:38,240
tv station and got them out but i just

1096
00:41:42,390 --> 00:41:40,319
didn't think of this at the time right

1097
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:42,400
it was me second siding and

1098
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:43,839
i went home and there was a few of the

1099
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:47,040
boys there me mates and um

1100
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,040
you know like i couldn't shut up about

1101
00:41:54,150 --> 00:41:51,520
what i'd just seen but my mate he looked

1102
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:54,160
like he couldn't talk about it that what

1103
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,599
he saw he couldn't

1104
00:41:59,910 --> 00:41:57,359
i couldn't explain it either at the time

1105
00:42:02,230 --> 00:41:59,920
like he's it was like as if he's seen

1106
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:02,240
something which he his mind and brain

1107
00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:03,760
had no reference for which you know it

1108
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,560
didn't but how he handled saying that

1109
00:42:10,710 --> 00:42:08,560
was different to me i was hyper all

1110
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:10,720
night and couldn't shut up about it emmy

1111
00:42:14,069 --> 00:42:12,319
mate he

1112
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:14,079
like when my friends asked him what you

1113
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:15,440
know what happened

1114
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:17,839
it was like as if he was just shocked by

1115
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:19,920
the whole thing like his persona and

1116
00:42:24,390 --> 00:42:21,599
everything he's like you know what peter

1117
00:42:26,150 --> 00:42:24,400
said we saw but he how he was speaking

1118
00:42:28,309 --> 00:42:26,160
about it was just like as if he was in

1119
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:28,319
disbelief in the stunned and he just sat

1120
00:42:32,710 --> 00:42:30,079
there all night just tripped out from

1121
00:42:35,349 --> 00:42:32,720
the whole thing just really placid and

1122
00:42:37,510 --> 00:42:35,359
really quiet and you know i was really

1123
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,520
hypoall about it so

1124
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,839
we had two different you know responses

1125
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:41,680
to to what we saw and that that's the

1126
00:42:45,510 --> 00:42:42,960
time when i found out that my brother

1127
00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:45,520
had the same sighting in 1995

1128
00:42:49,349 --> 00:42:47,520
that was the day so it was like nine

1129
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:49,359
years later

1130
00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:50,400
that um

1131
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:53,520
i found out about that

1132
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,800
around that time i was working at a um

1133
00:43:02,309 --> 00:42:59,040
at the albury tafe which is the adult

1134
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,319
education institute here um

1135
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,000
and i was a cleaner as well and i

1136
00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:06,160
started to see i got told the place was

1137
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:07,599
horned

1138
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:09,839
and like by my boss you know he said you

1139
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:11,599
know this place is meant to be haunted

1140
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,920
you know and i was sort of blew it i

1141
00:43:17,829 --> 00:43:15,680
didn't blow it off but i hadn't seen

1142
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:17,839
anything at the time so i didn't know

1143
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,599
what to think but

1144
00:43:23,030 --> 00:43:20,480
um

1145
00:43:25,510 --> 00:43:23,040
you know sure enough i started seeing

1146
00:43:27,349 --> 00:43:25,520
paranormal activity there and there was

1147
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:27,359
a shadow man i'd say there and there was

1148
00:43:32,069 --> 00:43:29,520
an apparition i used to see go down a

1149
00:43:33,750 --> 00:43:32,079
certain set of stairs and i used to hear

1150
00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,760
coughing in the toilets and after a

1151
00:43:37,190 --> 00:43:35,440
little while i asked the other people

1152
00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:37,200
working there

1153
00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,440
or one other person specifically because

1154
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,960
it was about three four in the morning

1155
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,880
i'd start work and there wasn't many

1156
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,240
there was only me in the building the

1157
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:45,680
whole time and this other bloke used to

1158
00:43:47,589 --> 00:43:46,470
just call in

1159
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,599
[Music]

1160
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,160
and we'll see there one time hearing

1161
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,920
coughs coming from the toilet no one was

1162
00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,240
there it was only him and me and looking

1163
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:56,960
at each other and i found out later on

1164
00:44:01,829 --> 00:44:00,160
we're in them set of toilets and

1165
00:44:04,069 --> 00:44:01,839
mind you there was a few sets but in

1166
00:44:05,670 --> 00:44:04,079
that specific one i found out that

1167
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:05,680
somebody died from an asthma attack

1168
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,359
there and that also somebody cracked

1169
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:09,280
their skull running down the stairs on

1170
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,560
the set of stairs i used to see an

1171
00:44:14,390 --> 00:44:12,400
apparition

1172
00:44:16,309 --> 00:44:14,400
um which sort of blew me out because i

1173
00:44:18,230 --> 00:44:16,319
didn't know where what had happened and

1174
00:44:20,309 --> 00:44:18,240
why the place was horned or why people

1175
00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:20,319
thought it was horned but once i found

1176
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:21,839
that out i was like well that's where

1177
00:44:27,030 --> 00:44:24,400
i'm witnessing activity so around that

1178
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:27,040
time i started you know opening up a lot

1179
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:29,920
more to it because you know

1180
00:44:34,870 --> 00:44:33,040
second sighting and then you know seeing

1181
00:44:37,109 --> 00:44:34,880
the the shadow man and the paranormal

1182
00:44:38,069 --> 00:44:37,119
activity that i did

1183
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:38,079
and

1184
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,440
had moved to melbourne for the time went

1185
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,599
to the gold coast and i was a rap artist

1186
00:44:50,790 --> 00:44:47,920
at the time just sort of you know

1187
00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:50,800
recording cds and performing and whatnot

1188
00:44:53,670 --> 00:44:51,680
and

1189
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:53,680
like after a few years away i'd come

1190
00:44:57,829 --> 00:44:56,079
back to aubry

1191
00:45:00,710 --> 00:44:57,839
and that's when

1192
00:45:03,829 --> 00:45:00,720
it the activity got full on and that was

1193
00:45:06,550 --> 00:45:03,839
around october of 2010 but just before

1194
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:06,560
that i actually started investigating

1195
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:09,119
paranormal hot spots and you know i got

1196
00:45:12,390 --> 00:45:10,720
a few evp

1197
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,400
and went out with a mate or two and just

1198
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:13,839
you know investigated a few spots

1199
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:16,000
because you know seeing that activity of

1200
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,000
the paranormal activity i had a lot of

1201
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,920
questions in my mind and it intrigued me

1202
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:21,680
because of what i witnessed and i'll

1203
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:24,160
take ufo reports on the side but then

1204
00:45:27,750 --> 00:45:26,800
all of a sudden in october yeah of 2010

1205
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:27,760
it just

1206
00:45:32,630 --> 00:45:30,240
started to all flare up again

1207
00:45:34,230 --> 00:45:32,640
and flare up more more than what i could

1208
00:45:35,750 --> 00:45:34,240
have ever ever

1209
00:45:37,990 --> 00:45:35,760
imagined so

1210
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:38,000
so you've had a number of sightings and

1211
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:41,359
i i i went quickly on your website oh by

1212
00:45:47,589 --> 00:45:42,960
the way what is the address of your

1213
00:45:50,550 --> 00:45:47,599
website uh peter maxwell slattery.com

1214
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:50,560
uh-huh okay on your website it says

1215
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:54,720
that you've seen orbs as well yeah um oh

1216
00:45:59,589 --> 00:45:57,680
it's sort of almost a weekly thing in my

1217
00:46:01,349 --> 00:45:59,599
house now some some of them are

1218
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,359
see-through balls

1219
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:03,280
some of them are emanating a light

1220
00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:04,640
within

1221
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,800
um some of them are totally

1222
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:09,280
just a light yeah it's come with what's

1223
00:46:14,550 --> 00:46:12,160
happened i don't know why or how it

1224
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,560
works but it's it's come with the

1225
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,880
activity for example

1226
00:46:20,150 --> 00:46:18,720
i was meant to go and sit my brother was

1227
00:46:21,670 --> 00:46:20,160
living out of town at the time and he

1228
00:46:24,390 --> 00:46:21,680
was coming in to stay the night at my

1229
00:46:25,829 --> 00:46:24,400
mum's house and i was going to visit him

1230
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:25,839
and it was about eight o'clock i was

1231
00:46:30,309 --> 00:46:28,319
meant to go up there at 8 30. but i

1232
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:30,319
never got there and what had happened

1233
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:31,280
was

1234
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:36,560
have a cigarette at the time and go out

1235
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:37,920
the backyard

1236
00:46:41,349 --> 00:46:39,040
and something told me to get the

1237
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:41,359
infrared camera and just pulling it up

1238
00:46:44,309 --> 00:46:42,720
to the sky

1239
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:44,319
leaving it on the

1240
00:46:48,309 --> 00:46:47,119
on the table out the back

1241
00:46:49,589 --> 00:46:48,319
and

1242
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:49,599
i'm you know

1243
00:46:54,790 --> 00:46:52,240
puffing away and i look up and i saw

1244
00:46:56,550 --> 00:46:54,800
this red all just coming out of nowhere

1245
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,560
fast does

1246
00:47:01,510 --> 00:46:58,800
and that's all i remember

1247
00:47:03,510 --> 00:47:01,520
well i come to you the next day inside

1248
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:03,520
on the couch i can't i don't know what

1249
00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:04,640
happened

1250
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,480
wouldn't have a clue

1251
00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:09,280
and i played the video until it went out

1252
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:11,440
and all it was was you'd see the red oil

1253
00:47:15,190 --> 00:47:12,560
come down

1254
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:15,200
and then the rest of the footage was

1255
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:17,200
you know just that airy sound the white

1256
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:18,640
noise sort of sound you're getting on a

1257
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:20,319
video recorded when you know it's just

1258
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:21,520
going

1259
00:47:27,109 --> 00:47:24,960
and and everything was black but what

1260
00:47:28,470 --> 00:47:27,119
what's weird i didn't realize she said

1261
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,480
until after i wrote the books and

1262
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:30,800
looking back the red all was on an

1263
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:33,440
infrared camera and it was filmed in red

1264
00:47:37,030 --> 00:47:34,960
you don't get color on an infrared

1265
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:37,040
camera you see the you know different

1266
00:47:41,430 --> 00:47:39,520
colors of green or it's either black or

1267
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:41,440
white depending on you know the infrared

1268
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,440
camera you've got that's right what's

1269
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:46,240
even weirder than that is that

1270
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:48,800
over times like i was setting up to do a

1271
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,200
presentation in sydney and just before i

1272
00:47:55,510 --> 00:47:52,640
went there when i was setting up the

1273
00:47:58,790 --> 00:47:55,520
powerpoint presentation i noticed white

1274
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:58,800
lights behind the orb high up in the sky

1275
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:01,040
blinking in and out

1276
00:48:05,990 --> 00:48:04,160
behind the red orb high up

1277
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,000
so

1278
00:48:10,390 --> 00:48:09,040
for about a year or whatnot i was just

1279
00:48:11,910 --> 00:48:10,400
concentrated on the red or because

1280
00:48:14,150 --> 00:48:11,920
that's what stood out to me because i'd

1281
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:14,160
seen it and you know i got it on camera

1282
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:16,079
but after replaying it and replaying it

1283
00:48:20,150 --> 00:48:17,599
and showing others you know there's

1284
00:48:22,470 --> 00:48:20,160
something there high up in the sky

1285
00:48:23,990 --> 00:48:22,480
blinking in and out into white light so

1286
00:48:25,829 --> 00:48:24,000
whether it's the craft and then orbs

1287
00:48:28,150 --> 00:48:25,839
coming out of it or what what happened

1288
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:28,160
you know who knows but that's one

1289
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,920
experience with uh

1290
00:48:33,910 --> 00:48:31,359
an orb that

1291
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:33,920
you know to me is pretty more intriguing

1292
00:48:37,910 --> 00:48:36,000
than the others i've seen them you know

1293
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:37,920
fly around the house i've seen them pop

1294
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:40,160
out of it like a white portal and this

1295
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:43,440
blue orb came out of it and it basically

1296
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,359
went around all the walls the walls of

1297
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:47,520
the house in every room and then flew

1298
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,880
back in and i was actually able to get a

1299
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:50,800
photo of it before it was going back out

1300
00:48:54,069 --> 00:48:52,000
and this is

1301
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:54,079
you can see it on my timeline page on my

1302
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:57,280
website it's like a fluid light

1303
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:00,000
ball and it's like a liquid blue it

1304
00:49:05,030 --> 00:49:02,480
wasn't like other orbs that i'd seen it

1305
00:49:06,790 --> 00:49:05,040
was it's totally different from anything

1306
00:49:07,990 --> 00:49:06,800
else i'd seen

1307
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:08,000
so

1308
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:09,280
um

1309
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:12,079
yeah like this there's been a lot but in

1310
00:49:17,589 --> 00:49:14,480
2010 when the activity picked up again

1311
00:49:19,109 --> 00:49:17,599
what happened was i had a friend over i

1312
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,119
was at the front door

1313
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:21,920
and we could see this white light my

1314
00:49:25,670 --> 00:49:23,280
friend and i

1315
00:49:28,230 --> 00:49:25,680
over that suburb of glenroy which isn't

1316
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:28,240
too far from where i am now sort of

1317
00:49:32,870 --> 00:49:30,640
going back and forth but going it was

1318
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,880
like as if it was going

1319
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,599
east but it was sort of not going fast

1320
00:49:39,829 --> 00:49:37,680
like a plane or a helicopter it was sort

1321
00:49:41,910 --> 00:49:39,839
of going a bit then sitting still

1322
00:49:44,230 --> 00:49:41,920
sometimes going back on itself and then

1323
00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:44,240
kept on going

1324
00:49:47,270 --> 00:49:45,280
and

1325
00:49:49,109 --> 00:49:47,280
you know me mate didn't know what it was

1326
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:49,119
and to me

1327
00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,720
i just i was like well that's what i've

1328
00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,720
seen years earlier

1329
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:54,559
in 2004

1330
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:57,040
but within that two-week period uh there

1331
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:59,440
was six sightings

1332
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:01,920
and i witnessed something five times one

1333
00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,640
of the times my friend witnessed it but

1334
00:50:07,910 --> 00:50:06,480
he was coming over and we'll you know

1335
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,920
about the party for the night or whatnot

1336
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:09,680
and i was in the shower and he's you

1337
00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:11,280
know randy knocked on the bathroom door

1338
00:50:15,829 --> 00:50:13,520
going it's back it's back porter because

1339
00:50:17,670 --> 00:50:15,839
me mates call me porter and i've gone

1340
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:17,680
till the pay off and he's gone back out

1341
00:50:22,790 --> 00:50:20,640
and he said it's gone so it was six

1342
00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,800
sightings but i only saw it five times

1343
00:50:26,549 --> 00:50:24,800
and one of those five times is the time

1344
00:50:29,670 --> 00:50:26,559
i pointed at the craft and it shot off

1345
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:29,680
which i told you about before

1346
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,720
um after that time is when it yeah it

1347
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:35,040
sort of kept on being a continuous scene

1348
00:50:40,390 --> 00:50:36,960
has your brother had any more sightings

1349
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:40,400
himself uh yeah he had one

1350
00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:41,680
i can't remember

1351
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:42,960
what

1352
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:45,680
month it was last year but

1353
00:50:49,990 --> 00:50:47,599
um

1354
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:50,000
yeah skipping ahead of of a lot of

1355
00:50:53,670 --> 00:50:51,839
what's happened but there's some things

1356
00:50:56,150 --> 00:50:53,680
he won't talk about and won't talk about

1357
00:50:57,750 --> 00:50:56,160
publicly and it took me a while to get

1358
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,760
anything out of him

1359
00:51:01,430 --> 00:50:59,040
he just didn't want to talk and he's

1360
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:01,440
five years older than me

1361
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,599
um and it sort of paid me off a bit i

1362
00:51:08,150 --> 00:51:05,280
was happy but paid off at the same time

1363
00:51:09,829 --> 00:51:08,160
when he did tell me some things because

1364
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:09,839
i was like i could have been talking to

1365
00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:11,680
you about this all along and you've had

1366
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:12,800
stuff happen

1367
00:51:18,710 --> 00:51:16,800
and so it was happy but frustrating yeah

1368
00:51:20,630 --> 00:51:18,720
he sort of just sat back on the sideline

1369
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,640
but he's been supportive

1370
00:51:25,670 --> 00:51:22,559
which meant a lot if you really think

1371
00:51:27,990 --> 00:51:25,680
about a large part of the population

1372
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:28,000
never sees a single craft at all you've

1373
00:51:31,190 --> 00:51:30,319
really had a lot of experiences your

1374
00:51:33,990 --> 00:51:31,200
area

1375
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:34,000
is what i'd consider quite a hot spot

1376
00:51:38,790 --> 00:51:36,720
yeah it could be it could be it's just i

1377
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,800
don't like it lately i'm seeing a more

1378
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,800
continuous thing where people are

1379
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,640
reporting but going back to the the

1380
00:51:45,990 --> 00:51:44,559
years beforehand it was a lot more

1381
00:51:47,190 --> 00:51:46,000
spread out but

1382
00:51:50,230 --> 00:51:47,200
you know there's something happening

1383
00:51:53,190 --> 00:51:50,240
every now and then yeah who knows yeah

1384
00:52:29,380 --> 00:51:53,200
yeah superior thank you so much yeah oh

1385
00:55:25,670 --> 00:52:41,400
[Music]

1386
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:52,930
so

1387
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:04,710
[Music]

1388
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:59,720
so